Thursday, August 16, 2012

Illustrative Plan - DHS

With some rumors circulating out there about a potential major capital injection into DHS, I decided to do an illustrative version of a previously-posted blue-sky expansion plan.   My original write-up for the park can be found here.

And here is the plan:


15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey great illustration what software do you use for that and is it freeee?< Cheapo

kermitdefrog said...

He uses AutoCAD.

Amaru said...

First of all, I really like the way you are able to zoom into your plans to see more details.

I like how you've transformed the motor stunt show into a super-hero stunt show and I guess you got rid of the Backlot tour as it takes up too much space for the experience it actually gives.

I found the Middle Earth area very interesting as i've tried to imagine a large scale Middle Earth land before. Because Middle Eath has a vast amount of different landscapes it is hard to have good, quick transitions into the different parts of Middle Earth (Such as The Shire, Rivendell and some of the more darker parts of Middle Earth), but it looks like you've done it quite well! Just out of interest (as i've not yet read the Lord of the Rings books) what is the fortress of the Necromancer?

The same about transitions can be said about Lucasland. Just another question, what is IJA: The Fate of Atlantis? Is it a new concept on the IJ series?

Anyway, I think this is one of your most exciting parks you have made (along with Night Kingdom and Dark Kingdom)and I think it's fantastic vision to the future of this park. Well Done!

Sorry for the long comment by the way.

SWW said...

^ I appreciate long, detailed comments and always happy to have a dialog on theme park theory.

I've designed a full Middle Earth park which focuses mostly (70%) on the locales/events from 'Lord of the Rings.' When I eventually post that park, you will see that the varying landscapes of ME are a very important part of the experience.

This is a condensed version of ME taking place around the time of 'The Hobbit' (60 years prior to LotR)... One enters the land via the green and pastoral Shire. Dol Guldur is Sauron's fortress in Mirkwood (from The Hobbit) where he began his comeback. So the trees here would be musty, foreboding and covered in mosses. The ride itself would be a high-tech E ticket dark ride/coaster (akin to the The Mummy), exploring the fortress' dungeons - maybe a rescue mission for Thorin's father - with appearances by orcs, trolls, spiders, castellans, ringwraiths and finally the Necromancer (Sauron) himself. The landscape around the base of the Lonely Mountain is a bit more montane-grassland but returns to heavy forest for the southeastern path to Gangsterland.

IJA: Atlantis is an Indiana Jones Adventure (EMV) but with a new theme (inspired by the classic Indy computer game/comic?). Since the Indy area is open to the Star Wars themed showbuildings (Soundstages are replaced with themed exteriors), I thought the greco-with-alien-influences Atlantean temple and and arid Maltese market would be a good way to transition from the Mos Eisley-style exteriors of nearby Star Wars area (ST exit shop would no longer be Mos Eisley, but back to Endor-themed). This area, like Middle Earth, has condensed but distinct locales (Endor, Mos Eisley, Dagobah).


Anonymous said...

Off-topic question. What do you find the best or most beautiful park you desgined here on this site?

greet,

SWW said...

^That's like having 105 children and having to pick your favorite...

Off the top of my mind, based on artistry alone, not contents or originality, I really like the way the Disneyland Australia Full Illustrative from a few posts back turned out. The park is very large, but balanced, different but familiar, and I think the colors work well... a pleasing illustration to my eye.

My most ambitious and complex park designs have not been shared on the site... got to hold some stuff back...







kermitdefrog said...

This isn't even your final form!?

Anonymous said...

I spy a pair of crosshairs on the lake to the left of the "Fantasmic!" amphitheater.

SWW said...

^ Good eyes! Took care of it. Thnks.

Anonymous said...

SWW, great stuff as always.

If DHS did end up looking something like your drawing, it would undoubtedly be a much nicer experience than it currently is. However, my Blue Sky DHS would be different. I want to get away from lands like "Lucas Land" and "Pixar Place" that do not have unifying theme other than their studios. I would much rather have a "Star Wars land" than "Lucas Land", for example. If I could do whatever I wanted to at WDW, I would take out MK's budget version of Pirates and build Western River Expedition in that park, as originally intended. Then that would open the possibility of a fully realized "Pirate land" at another park (like DHS, with greater emphasis on the movie franchise, as appropriate in a park about movies).

- Tasman

Anonymous said...

Great job. I had this idea that what if Disney or more of Busch Gardens made a park centered around the corners of America you know the southern region could be antebellum or new Orleans square type, North could be the adventurous frontierland and wilderness, pacific could be like beach or even south pacific islands, and atlantic with Rhode island/Maine with waterfronts and vessels. It's just a thought but if its possible I love to see extensive plans.-Regal

SWW said...

^Anon, that is an interesting idea. I posted one park here that looked at America (originated by Comics101) from both a geographical & historical perspectives. Your idea sounds like it would emphasize geography & culture over history.

Tasman, it sounds like your idea is similar to Disney and Universal's current approach to several of their parks (e.g. Singapore, DCA)... create an immersive land around a film franchise (i.e. Jurassic Park, Potter, The Mummy, Cars) - not looking at the production aspect, but at the worlds seen on screen. I'd have no problem with that approach, but to do something similar throughout DHS would require a huge amount of re-working.

What I drew here is sort of a middle-way, attempting to keep much of the existing park intact, adding some immersive worlds like you described (Middle Earth, Gangsterland), but acknowledging the film-makers/making process in others (WD Animation, Great Movie Ride). The Lucas area is actually a mix with the Star Wars and IJA areas being 'first person' [you are IN that world/story] and the stunt show remaining somewhat 'third person' [you are WATCHING the making of that story].


Anonymous said...

SWW, I don't think the ideas I floated in my previous post would require any greater reworking of the park than yours. An immersive Star Wars area could easily be built on the same footprint as your Lucasland. And a Pirates-land could go very easily into the spot where you've located Middle Earth. I would keep Hollywood, Sunset, Muppet Studios, and Marvel just the way you have it. Pixar Place...while I am no fan of the concept...could also stay the same...it being difficult to do much else with that tricky bit of real estate.

As an aside... Rather than an Indy ride at DHS, I would build one roughly where Pirates is today at the MK. The current Adventureland could be rethemed along the lines of the Lost River Delta area of TDS, with Jungle Cruise modeled along lines of the Indiana Jones and the Lost Expedition attraction once planned for Disneyland.

- Tasman

SWW said...

I see. I misinterpreted your post as removing all nods to movie-making (e.g. Great Movie Ride) and fully shifting to recreating fictional movie worlds.

I like the Lost Expedition for MK idea. I may be drawing another version of MK soon and perhaps I'll included it. What would you do with MK's Frontierland/Liberty Sq if the mandate came down that Liberty Belle would be permanently docked so a connecting bridge from Big Thunder exit to Liberty Square could be built to ease crowd flow? This would allow for filling in the northern half of RoA for new lands/attractions. I'm not an advocate of this idea at all (think the ROA should stay), but I've read that this is a long-term WDI plan being considered for MK.



Anonymous said...

^^ No, I certainly didn't want to remove all nods to movie-making. I love the idea of the "Hollywood-that-never-was", and lament all the great concepts that fell by the wayside in the 1990s...Gangster Shootout, Maroon Studios, Great Muppet Movie Ride, additional buildings and a trolley along Sunset, etc...

I think both Muppet Studios and a Marvel City make thematic "sense" within the context of the worlds they represent (as does the "Hollywood that never was"). However, Lucas Land and Pixar Place do not make the same "sense" to me...regardless of their creator, Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones shouldn't be rubbing shoulders (on the the other hand, there's no reason Spiderman couldn't bump into Ironman in their big city, and no reason why the muppets wouldn't be filming various movies).

As for what to do if the Liberty Belle got docked...that's a difficult question, but I'd go for a version of the Discovery Bay concept once planned for Disneyland to built along the northern shore of RoA at the MK. However, my pricipal desire for this side of the park remains Western River Expedition (I would put it where Splash is today - that's where it was intended to go after it was made a completely separate attraction from BTMRR).

- Tasman